In the Netherlands, Cinnaman is regarded as one of the bright young DJ-talents. As a selector he has been known to be on the forefront of new developments in every thinkable genre of house music culminating in his regular and long-running club night Colors in TrouwAmsterdam. Although we’ve been a fan of him for quite some time now, we hadn’t considered to invite him for our podcast series until we saw a deeper side of him when he did an all nighter in De Verdieping, the second room at Colors during Amsterdam Dance Event in 2013. We came to see Julio Bashmore and Kowton, yet we spent all night with Cinnaman during his 6-hour journey in Trouw’s infamous second room.
“Yes, that was a fun night. Trouw has become kind of my second home and all the people working and playing there feel like one big family that I have become a part of. With Trouw closing in Januari, it’s kind of like we’ve all grown up and leaving our parents’ home. Still, I think we will keep that family bond and move to different places across Amsterdam or across the country.”
With Trouw closing, everyone is wondering what will be the next great club in Amsterdam that everybody will frequent in the future. “Well the thing is, you see all these new initiatives and that of course is great in itself, as long as they don’t try to be ‘the next Trouw’. The beauty about Trouw is that it was a stamp on a certain generation, just like Club 11, RoXY and iT were for previous generations. Although I’ve been to Club 11, I never had that special connection with it like I have with Trouw. It’s now up to the next generation to build something that is tailored to them. It has to grow naturally, just like Trouw did. It’s not like Trouw was the great club it is now directly after Club 11 closed. It had to evolve into what it is now and the same goes for the next club that is going the be the next great thing.”
The end of Trouw also means uncertainty for Cinnaman’s club night Colors. “We [Cinnaman and his Colors-partners Volcmar Lammers and Lukas Nieuwenhuijsen] are still contemplating Colors’ future, but personally I think maybe the end of Trouw will also be a nice ending for Colors. It really belonged to that place and if we decide to continue throwing parties, I think it should be something entirely new, in a new place.”
In the past, we have featured one of Cinnaman’s productions: a collaboration with Tom Trago [as Yuro & Trago; Cinnaman’s given namen is Yuri Boselie]. Apart from that, there are not a whole lot of Cinnaman productions out there. We wondered why. “I actually spend a lot of time in the studio. I’m too big of a perfectionist to release more music though. To me it’s just a way to keep myself entertained. Some people play video games, I like to fiddle around in a studio. Sometimes a friend comes over like Tom and then we decide to just release it for the hell of it, but mostly it’s for myself.”
That perfectionist approach also shines throught when Cinnaman is making a podcast. “I’m never satisfied. I spent a lot of time on this one as well. Making a podcast is totally different from playing in a club. There’s no crowd energy when you’re making a podcast at home, you’re just playing music for your blank wall. That makes me insecure. I’d rather just get an instant reaction to the music I’m playing.”
One time he even got quite an unusual reaction from a guest. “There was this time a guy came up to me and asked if I wanted to play at his wedding. I was like “Yeah, hit me up, we should definitely do that, I’ll even do it for free!” I was totally looking forward to that. Playing some old disco and 80’s set full of hits and obscure records that I have collected over the years. I think he got scared from my reaction or thought that I was sarcastic. Long story short, I haven’t heard from him ever again. Still, I hope he’s happily married now.”
By this point in our conversation, we started to get the impression that Cinnaman never considered to do any other thing than making music, so we dared to ask the most cliché question thinkable: What would he be doing if he weren’t making music? “To be honest, I’ve never even considered such a scenario. The only thing I’ve known is making music and that’s what I’ve been doing my entire life. There was never a plan B, because it just always was this way and luckily I haven’t had to worry about doing anything else.”